Criminal Law Conversations
Edited by Paul H. Robinson, Stephen Garvey, and Kimberly Kessler Ferzan
Table of Contents
i. Principles
Chapter 1. Decision Rules and Conduct Rules: On Acoustic Separation in Criminal Law
Meir Dan-Cohen
Comments:
Kyron Huigens-Duress Is Never a Conduct Rule
Samuel W. Buell-Decision Rule as Notice: The Case of Fraud
Anne M. Coughlin-Of Decision Rules and Conduct Rules, or Doing the Police in Different Voices
Luís Duarte d'Almeida-Separation, But Not of Rules
Adil Ahmad Haque-The Constitutive Function of Criminal Law
Eric J. Miller-Are There Two Types of Decision Rule?
Malcolm Thorburn-A Liberal Criminal Law Cannot Be Reduced to These Two Types of Rules
Reply:
Meir Dan-Cohen
Chapter 2. Empirical Desert
Paul H. Robinson
Comments:
Mary Sigler-The False Promise of Empirical Desert
Adam J. Kolber-Compliance-Promoting Intuitions
Michael T. Cahill-A Fertile Desert?
Alice Ristroph-The New Desert
Youngjae Lee-Keeping Desert Honest
Matthew Lister-Desert: Empirical, Not Metaphysical
Alice Ristroph-Response to Lee and Lister
Joseph E. Kennedy-Empirical Desert and the Endpoints of Punishment
Andrew E. Taslitz-Empirical Desert: The Yin and Yang of Criminal Justice
Adil Ahmad Haque-Legitimacy as Strategy
Laura I. Appleman-Sentencing, Empirical Desert, and Restorative Justice
Reply:
Paul H. Robinson
Chapter 3. Defending Preventive Detention
Christopher Slobogin
Comments:
Michael Louis Corrado-Slobogin on Dehumanization
Michael Marcus-Don't Abandon Sentencing Reform to Defend Preventive Detention
Rinat Kitai-Sangero-The Presumption of Innocence versus Preventive Detention
Matt Matravers-Unreliability, Innocence, and Preventive Detention
Joseph E. Kennedy-The Dangers of Dangerousness as a Basis of Incarceration
Reply:
Christopher Slobogin
Chapter 4. The Economics of Crime Control
Doron Teichman
Comments:
Russell D. Covey-The Limits of the Economic Model: Becker's Crime and Punishment
Alon Harel-The Economic Analysis of Crime Control: A Friendly Critique
Keith N. Hylton-Effi cient Deterrence and Crime Control
Morris B. Hoffman-Law, Economics, and Neuroethical Realism
Reply:
Doron Teichman
Chapter 5. The Difficulties of Deterrence as a Distributive Principle
Paul H. Robinson
Comments:
Russell D. Covey-Deterrence's Complexity
Douglas A. Berman-Making Deterrence Work Better
Doron Teichman-In Defense of Deterrence
Jonathan S. Masur, Richard H. McAdams, and Thomas J. Miles-For General Deterrence
Reply:
Paul H. Robinson
Chapter 6. Why only the State may Inflict Criminal Sanctions: The Case Against Privately Inflicted Sanctions
Alon Harel
Comments:
Miriam Baer-Eliminating the Divide Between the State and Its Citizens
Doron Teichman-Why the State May Delegate the Infliction of Criminal Sanctions
Malcolm Thorburn-Why Only the State May Decide when Sanctions Are Appropriate
Stuart P. Green-Why Do Privately Inflicted Criminal Sanctions Matter?
Reply:
Alon Harel
Chapter 7. Results Don't Matter
Larry Alexander and Kimberly Kessler Ferzan
Comments:
Gerald Leonard-Some Reasons Why Criminal Harms Matter
Peter Westen-Why Criminal Harms Matter
Thomas Morawetz-Results Don't Matter, But . . .
Jeremy Horder-On the Reducibility of Crimes
Reply:
Larry Alexander and Kimberly Kessler Ferzan
Chapter 8. Post-Modern Meditations on Punishment: On the Limits of Reason and the Virtue of Randomization Bernard E. Harcourt
Comments:
Alice Ristroph-Games Punishers Play
Michael M. O'Hear-Chance's Domain
Alon Harel-The Lure of Ambivalent Skepticism
Ken Levy-Punishment Must Be Justified Or Not at All
Reply:
Bernard E. Harcourt
Chapter 9. Remorse, Apology, and Mercy
Jeffrie G. Murphy
Comments:
Sherry F. Colb-Retaining Remorse
Stephanos Bibas-Invasions of Conscience and Faked Apologies
Susan Bandes-Evaluation of Remorse Is Here to Stay: We Should Focus on Improving Its Dynamics
Lisa Kern Griffin-Insincere and Involuntary Public Apologies
Janet Ainsworth-The Social Meaning of Apology
Reply:
Jeffrie G. Murphy
Chapter 10. Interpretive Construction in the Substantive Criminal Law
Mark Kelman
Comments:
Paul Litton-Unexplained, False Assumptions Underlie Kelman's Skepticism
John Mikhail-Unconscious Choices in Legal Analysis
Margaret Raymond-Interpretive Constructions and the Exercise of Bias
Alice Ristroph-Interpretive Construction and Defensive Punishment Theory
Reply:
Mark Kelman
Chapter 11. Criminalization and Sharing Wrongs
S.E. Marshall and R.A. Duff
Comments:
Stuart P. Green-Sharing Wrongs Between Criminal and Civil Sanctions
Shlomit Wallerstein-Victim, Beware! On the Dangers of Sharing Wrongs with Society
Adil Ahmad Haque-Sharing the Burdens of Justice
Matthew Lister-Contractualism and the Sharing of Wrongs
Michelle Madden Dempsey-Sharing Reasons for Criminalization? No Thanks . . . Already Got 'Em!
Andrew E. Taslitz-Public versus Private Retribution and Delegated Revenge
Reply:
S.E. Marshall and R.A. Duff
Chapter 12. Monstrous Offenders and the Search for Solidarity Through Modern Punishment
Joseph E. Kennedy
Comments:
Marianne Wesson-Domesticated Monsters
Janet Ainsworth-"We Have Met the Enemy and He Is Us": Cognitive Bias and Perceptions of Threats
Douglas A. Berman-Have Good Intentions Also Fueled the Severity Revolution?
Reply:
Joseph E. Kennedy
ii. Doctrine
Chapter 13. Against Negligence Liability
Larry Alexander and Kimberly Kessler Ferzan
Comments:
Leo Zaibert-For Negligence Liability
Michelle Madden Dempsey-The Object of Criminal Responsibility
Alan Brudner-Is Negligence Blameless?
Stephen P. Garvey-Fatally Circular? Not!
Andrew E. Taslitz-Cognitive Science and Contextual Negligence Liability
Kenneth W. Simons-The Distinction Between Negligence and Recklessness Is Unstable
Reply:
Larry Alexander and Kimberly Kessler Ferzan
Chapter 14. Rape Law Reform Based on Negotiation: Beyond the No and Yes Models
Michelle J. Anderson
Comments:
Andrew E. Taslitz-Self-Deception and Rape Law Reform
Kimberly Kessler Ferzan-Sex as Contract
Robin Charlow-Negotiating Sex: Would It Work?
Sherry F. Colb-Conversation Before Penetration?
Marianne Wesson-You Can't Get Away from Consent
Reply:
Michelle J. Anderson
Chapter 15. Provocation: Explaining and Justifying the Defense in Partial Excuse, Loss of Self-Control Terms
Joshua Dressler
Comments:
Susan D. Rozelle-He Had It Coming: Provocation as a Partial Justification
Vera Bergelson-Provocation: Not Just a Partial Excuse
Marcia Baron-Reframing the Issues: Differing Views of Justification and the Feminist Critique of Provocation
Joan H. Krause-Tolerating the Loss of Self-Control
Kenneth Simons-Excuse Doctrine Should Eschew Both the Reasonable and the Ordinary Person
Stephen P. Garvey-Get Rid of Adequate Provocation!
Marianne Wesson-Enforcing Virtue with the Law of Homicide
Reply:
Joshua Dressler
Chapter 16. Objective Versus Subjective Justifi cation: A Case Study in Function and Form in Constructing a System of Criminal Law Theory
Paul H. Robinson
Comments:
Peter Westen-A Platonic Justification for "Unknowing Justification"
Shlomit Wallerstein-The Third, Combined, Theory for Justifications
Mitchell N. Berman-In Defense of Subjective Justifications
John Mikhail-Constraining the Necessity Defense
Reply:
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Chapter 17. Self-Defense and the Psychotic Aggressor
George P. Fletcher and Luis E. Chiesa
Comments:
Boaz Sangero-"Self-Defense and the Psychotic Aggressor": What About Proportionality?
John Mikhail-Self-Defense Against Wrongful Attack: The Case of the Psychotic Aggressor
Sherry F. Colb-Justifying Homicide Against Innocent Aggressors Without Denying Their Innocence
Shlomit Wallerstein-Two Flaws in the Autonomy-Based Justification for Self-Defense
Whitley R.P. Kaufman-Problems for the Autonomy Theory of Self-Defense
Reply:
George P. Fletcher and Luis E. Chiesa
Chapter 18. Self-Defense Against Morally Innocent Threats
Jeff McMahan
Comments:
Adil Ahmad Haque-Rights and Liabilities at War
Shlomit Wallerstein-Why Causal Responsibility Matters
Kimberly Kessler Ferzan-Can't Sue; Can't Kill
Whitley R.P. Kaufman-Can "Moral Responsibility" Explain Self-Defense?
Victor Tadros-Doubts About the Responsibility Principle
Reply:
Jeff McMahan
Chapter 19. Self- Defense, Imminence, and the Battered Woman
Whitley R.P. Kaufman
Comments:
Gideon Yaffe-The Real Link Between Imminence and Necessity
Marcia Baron-In Defense of the Proxy Thesis
Kimberly Kessler Ferzan-The Values and Costs of Imminence
Joan H. Krause-Imminence Reconsidered: Are Battered Women Different?
Jeremy Horder-The "Imminence" Requirement, Battered Women, and the Authority to Strike Back
Reply:
Whitley Kaufman
Chapter 20. Reasonable Provocation and Self-Defense: Recognizing the Distinction Between Act Reasonableness and Emotion Reasonableness
Cynthia Lee
Comments:
Susan D. Rozelle-Making Waves: Radicalizing Act Reasonableness
Carissa Byrne Hessick-Is an Act Reasonableness Inquiry Necessary?
Terry A. Maroney-Differentiating Cognitive and Volitional Aspects of Emotion in Self-Defense and Provocation
Caroline Forell-Norms, Proportionality, Provocation, and Imperfect Self-Defense
Jeremy Horder-Different Ways to Manifest Reasonableness
Kenneth W. Simons-Requiring Reasonable Beliefs About Self-Defense Ensures that Acts Conforming to Those Beliefs Are Reasonable
Reply:
Cynthia Lee
Chapter 21. Against Control Tests for Criminal Responsibility
Stephen J. Morse
Comments:
Stephen P. Garvey-The Folk Psychology of Self-Control
Michael Louis Corrado-Morse on Control Tests
Susan D. Rozelle-Sometimes a Control Test Is Just a Control Test
Terry A. Maroney-Why Is a Folk-Psychological Account of Loss of Control Necessary (And What Precisely Is It)?
Robert F. Schopp-Cognition, Rationality, and Responsibility
Reply:
Stephen J. Morse
Chapter 22. Abolition of the Insanity Defense
Christopher Slobogin
Comments:
Susan D. Rozelle-No Excuse for You
Sherry F. Colb-Not By Cognition Alone
Paul Litton-Against Integrationism
Matt Matravers-Justifying Defenses
Reply:
Christopher Slobogin
Chapter 23. Entrapment and the "Free Market" for Crime
Louis Michael Seidman
Comments:
Sherry F. Colb-Making Sense of Entrapment Law After the Death of Lochner
Miriam Baer-Entrapment and the Quandary of the Undercover Investigation
Bruce Hay-An Enforcement Policy Perspective on Entrapment
Richard H. McAdams-The Entrapment Defense Defended
Reply:
Louis Michael Seidman
iii. Administration
Chapter 24. The Political Economy of Criminal Law and Procedure: The Pessimists' View
Richard H. McAdams
Comments:
Darryl K. Brown-The Enduring Pattern of Broad Criminal Codes and a Path for Structural Change
Samuel W. Buell-The Sources of Overbreadth
Joseph E. Kennedy-Why Here and Why Now? Bringing History and Sociology to Bear on Punitive Pathology
Andrew E. Taslitz-The Political Economy of Prosecutorial Indiscretion
Rachel E. Barkow-An Ounce of Prevention: Realistic Treatment for Our Pathological Politics
Ronald F. Wright-Prosecutor Elections and Overdepth in Criminal Codes
Reply:
Richard H. McAdams
Chapter 25. Against Jury Nullification
Andrew D. Leipold
Comments:
Richard H. McAdams-Jury Nullification Checks Prosecutorial Power
Carol S. Steiker-Sculpting the Shape of Nullification Through Jury Information and Instruction
Sherry F. Colb-Jury Nullification and Erroneous Acquittals: Getting the Causation Backwards
Josh Bowers-Accuracy and Legitimacy
Reply:
Andrew D. Leipold
Chapter 26. Race-Based Jury Nullification: Black Power in the Criminal Justice System
Paul Butler
Comments:
Lawrence Rosenthal-Confusing Cause and Effect
Robin Charlow-The Effect of Race-Based Jury Nullification on Baston
LaJuana Davis-The Pernicious Myth of Racial Jury Nullification
Sherry F. Colb-Rejecting Racial Jury Nullification
Bennett Capers-On Racially Based Jury Nullification
Josh Bowers-Grand-Jury Nullification: Black Power in the Charging Decision
Reply:
Paul Butler
Chapter 27. In Support of Restorative Justice
Erik Luna
Comments:
Stephanos Bibas-Restoration, But Also More Justice
David Donlinko-Restorative Caveats
Margareth Etienne-Restoring Justice Through Individualized Processes
Joseph E. Kennedy-Restore to What? Supplementing Restorative Justice
Michael M. O'Hear-Dangers of the Big Tent
Robert Weisberg-Luna-Inspired Speculations on Restorative Justice
Reply:
Erik Luna
Chapter 28. The Virtues of Offense/Offender Distinctions
Douglas A. Berman
Comments:
Richard E. Myers II-From Each According to His Ability
Adam J. Kolber-Characteristics Related to Punishment Experience
Nancy Gertner-Offense/Offender Distinction and Competence
Laura I. Appleman-Splitting the Baby: The Danger of Distinguishing Between Offense and Offender Characteristics
Joseph E. Kennedy- Blakely, Booker, Accountability, and Intelligibility
Margareth Etienne-In Need of a Theory of Mitigation
Reply:
Douglas A. Berman
Chapter 29. The Heart has its Reasons: Examining the Strange Persistence of the American Death Penalty
Susan A. Bandes
Comments:
Douglas A. Berman and Stephanos Bibas-The Heart Has Its Value: The Death Penalty's Justifi able Persistence
Mary Sigler-Emotions, Retributivism and the Death Penalty
Jeffrie G. Murphy-When Clearly Understood, Retributive Theory Has Much To Offer
Robert F. Schopp-Reason and Emotion in Capital Sentencing
Joseph E. Kennedy-Outrage versus Anger and Hatred
Carol S. Steiker-Will Empathy Kill the Death Penalty, or Vice Versa?
LaJuana Davis-Overriding Emotion
Terry A. Maroney-Can the Theory and Practice of Capital Punishment Be More Emotionally Intelligent?
Reply:
Susan A. Bandes
Chapter 30. Mercy's Decline and Administrative Law's Ascendance
Rachel E. Barkow
Comments:
Ronald F. Wright and Marc L. Miller-Subjective and Objective Discretion of Prosecutors
Douglas A. Berman-Mercy's Disguise, Prosecutorial Power, and Equality's Modern Construction
Stephanos Bibas-Political versus Administrative Justice
Andrew E. Taslitz-The Decline of Criminal Law Representative Populism
Reply:
Rachel E. Barkow
Chapter 31. Criminal Law Comes Home
Jeannie Suk
Comments:
Melissa Murray-The Private Life of Criminal Law
Laura A. Rosenbury-Whose Privacy?
Aya Gruber-From Neoliberalism to Libertarianism: Why Neither Criminalization Nor Privacy Is the
Answer for Battered Women
Jennifer Collins-Criminal Law Comes Home to a Family
Cheryl Hanna-Because Breaking Up Is Hard To Do
Emily J. Sack-The Crime of Domestic Violence
Deborah Tuerkheimer-Domesticating Criminal Law: A Normative Defense
Alafair Burke-Domestic Violence Misdemeanor Prosecutions and the New Policing
Reply:
Jeannie Suk